Thursday, April 16, 2009

Telling the Truth about Immortality I

The common flaw shared by all in recorded history
who’ve attempted to portray the immortals
is the insistent assumption that the eternal
behave entirely as mortals do;
albeit, mortals with inhuman power,
but mortals none the less.

I think my previous explanation of why this is so
from Some Thoughts on Immortality suffices
but I will briefly recap:

A. The immortals of myth and literature are,
in all of written record,
persistently depicted with well-established human emotions
from which their motives are fed their sole spring of sustenance.
i.e.

A loving God
A jealous Hera
A horny Dracula
A hateful Superman

B. There is enough evidence to state that
even in the mortal framework of man
there are plenty of recordable instances in which age,
& its associated experience,
produces more rational
& consistently more beneficial responses in the elder.
i.e. (entirely for your benefit)

Imagine a scientific experiment
where subjects are put through a pass/fail examination
consisting of a series of questions,
measuring knowledge, rational skills, reason, mental dexterity,
which increase consistently in difficulty.

If these questions were spaced out every 5 ft.
on an infinite & timeless plain
and to progress forward,
each examinee need answer the previous question accurately
according to testing officials.
1st being, something simple, “What fruit is this?”, a card displayed.
2nd advancing, 8x5?
33rd name 5 Mesopotamian Generals.
89th a hypothetical maybe regarding moral judgment,
role of persona, veiled mechanisms of complicated human relations.
& so & so forth like that forever.

Now if we took 5 clones
raised in identically controlled environments,
one specimen not a year old, another at 10, a third at 30,
our fourth 50, and lastly a retired gentleman of 65
& began theirs tests at precisely the same time.
Where would each be at the end of a day?
The end of a year?
50 years?
100?
10,000 years?
A million years?

C. I wouldn’t be alone in assuming also,
that knowledge, wisdom, mental acumen, and abstract reasoning,
for their entire known history, have in their individual ends always,
at their base,
aimed to resolve human suffering.
It can be said about everything from fire to the a-bomb.

D. We, as mortal man, have, for all known history,
sought the means & machinery
necessary to alleviate our own suffering.
Our combined will & prowess has always
leaned towards survival first
then the alleviation of the burden of survival.

No fear but Death has pushed us to the great lengths
of our modern society.
We live longer, our borders safer,
institutions do black deeds behind closed doors
to insure our futures,
all working to alleviate the fear of chaos,
the fear of the unknowable.
i.e.

Modern Medicine
The militarization of governments
Development of industrial materials

We aim to survive & from that civilizations uncoil,
but it is still not enough.
The people ache, they cry out, the burden is too great,
they demand motorized scooters, instant gratification,
emotional dependence,
sense of community, sense of self-importance;
the weight so unbearable, that every small pebble under foot screams agony.
i.e.

In a modern world with so little to fear,
everyone still rushes around maniacally grasping at one another,
entertaining dark thoughts, lashing out on themselves,
their motives indistinguishable.

But there is food in their bellies, roofs over most of their heads,
cars in the driveway,
children in school living under guard in apartments and condominiums.

We still fear for a perceivable future where all that will be parted from us.
We fear our lack of influence, our absence.

It is impossible to imagine a world not dependant on our perception,
literally impossible;
just try it…

1.)So a world without our perceiving can not be imagined.
2.)We can not, therefore, imagine our death, our non-existence.
3.)Yet, we know death to be true. We have the evidence.
4.)So, Death is proof that some truth is simply unobtainable.
5.)Death is an abyss in the human psyche,
the mind can not perceive it.
6.)The mind’s work is one of comprehension.
7.)Minds go in all directions, seeking information,
feeding impulses, staying alive.
8.)The one place that no man’s mind is permitted is Death.
9.)Death being one discernable attribute shared by all of mankind.
10.)The consciousness of civilization can then be said
to have only ever moved away from Death.

So knowing that all to be true,
our present (and historical) archetype
of eternals behaving as mortals,
is proven illogical:

If A (Immortal), as a defining characteristic,
is incapable of D (Death)
& B (Mortal)’s C (Behavior) is a result of D (Death)

A (Immortal)’s behavior can not be BC(Mortal Behavior)
Because BC (Mortal Behavior) is dependant on D (Death)
which A (Immortal) is incapable of
so
A (Immortal) does not equal BC (Mortal Behavior)

That’s a fallacy folks, read about it in your text books.

Frankly, that recap was exhausting.
Come back for part II, Morals of Chaos, tomorrow.

P.S. The pic is a link, as per usual.

3 comments:

  1. simplify to AC[does not =]BC
    question: is that the fallacy? or is the fallacy that death rules our decision making?
    i am for the latter.

    as your five move through time are we talking about aging ... i assume not. is this correct?

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  2. I could've gone further with the mathematical heebee jeebees but it wouldn't have offered any better an explanation.

    Death ruling our lives is unavoidable, we're mortal, hard to disprove that. The fallacy, and I feel as though I failed for having to explain it, is that Immortals behave like Mortals. That formula proves that Immortals CANNOT behave like Mortals, its impossible.

    This is really just a preface, to make sure everyone was on the same page, I know Some Thoughts on Immortality, was just that, scattered, disorganized ramblings. So I figured I'd clean that up so that we could move on to the actual subject at hand:
    Telling the Truth about Immortality

    I of course always get ahead of myself and I soon realized that to do this right we would also need to discuss the Genre, Myth. You will find that tipped hat posted now.

    I think its covered that they age but they don't deteriorate, but you can check again for me, can't you?

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  3. I have to ask forgiveness.
    Often my responces are short in temper.
    So let me address some of your questions
    a little more respectfully.

    Your logical formula is correct,
    it was what I had intended to end with,
    I sacrificed it
    because of the structural confines of the site
    & out of concern that the repetition
    of the word Behavior would detract from
    the explanation of the formula.

    Your take on the Fallacy
    I think is a mistake of verbage,
    thought it is nonsensical & unjust
    that we should be ruled by our terror,
    it's logic is indisputable.

    Logic has a hard time with will
    as a rule
    Is it illogical that man act irrationally?
    Absolutely
    but is his reason for acting irrationally
    any better than one of firm rationale?
    It's debatable,
    so it lacks the potential for fallacy.

    As far as the example of the test
    & the effect on aging on its examinees
    it is worded that the exam takes place,

    "...on an infinite & timeless plain"

    I wrestled with that too,
    I hoped for it to be air-tight
    & chose that sentence to explain the issue
    instead of adding it to the explanation
    of the testing scenario
    because I felt that it detracted
    from the results.

    So you are correct!

    Thanks for pointing things out,
    though I refuse to post-edit after
    the immediate release
    & final exam for spacing
    I will try to keep these concerns in mind
    for future work.

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